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Kodak Reported to Have Joined the Mainsleazers Reported in nanae, anti-spam newsgroup. April 20, 2004. A poster to news.admin.net-abuse.email reports in detail being spammed by Kodak and their response to his complaint. It appears Kodak has gone over to the dark side of mainsleaze spam. Search groups.google.com news.admin.net-abuse.* archives on "kodak". |
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Earthlink Facilitates Kodak Spam Email [The following quotes a usenet newsgroup article found in news.admin.net-abuse.email] From InactiveX666@hotmail.com Tue Apr 20 07:42:32 2004 Path: monger.newsread.com!news-toy.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newsprint.newsread.com!prodigy.com!prodigy.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.ash.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ash.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!56520ccc!not-for-mail Subject: Earthlink + Kodak: Spamming Partners From: Jonas Smithson Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Message-ID: <200420040213181458%smithsonNOSPAM@REMOVETHISboardermail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Thoth/1.6.0 (Carbon/OS X) Lines: 44 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 06:13:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.167.184.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net 1082441599 66.167.184.245 (Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:13:19 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:13:19 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: news-toy.newsread.com news.admin.net-abuse.email:2395431 I recently got a fancy HTML-formatted spam, advertising Kodak photo services, from Earthlink (my ISP). I was surprised at this, because I'm used to getting tons of spam from obvious criminals, morons, and criminal morons, but not usually from real companies (although J.C. Penny did spam me many times a couple of years ago). In the past, Earthlink had emailed me advertisements for their own services, despite my having chosen all the opt-out options on my account Web page. But I don't recall their ever spamming me with unrelated services before. I called Earthlink to complain, but got a complicated runaround, made worse by my difficulty in understanding the heavy Indian accents of their overseas help desk people. I then forwarded the spam to abuse@earthlink.net, and (after more runarounds, including their demand that I send them "more email headers" despite the spam having obviously come from them), they eventually admitted that they had, in fact, sent me the spam. Earthlink also admitted that I had already opted out of such things. They said they couldn't explain why I got the spam anyway, but said they'd "look into it." Then I called Kodak to complain. I expected them to say that Earthlink had assured them their ad would only go to "opt-in" customers -- but no, two different people at Kodak had the gall to deny Kodak had anything to do with the spam at all! I asked one of them whether she thought Earthlink had sent me a Kodak ad out of charitable feelings for Kodak, and was met with a stony silence. The conversation went downhill from there and ended... um... rather abruptly, but we can skip over that. What really upsets me is the "prior business relationship" issue. For example, today Verizon gave me a recorded telemarketing call, despite my being on the National Do Not Call list, but I'm sure (if I had bothered to complain) they'd just say that as a Verizon customer I have a "prior business relationship" with them. Fine; and I have one with Earthlink too -- but I have *no* such "relationship" with Kodak. Yet it seems Earthlink thinks they can *transfer* this so-called "relationship" to any company that pays them! This makes a mockery of the entire distinction between "unsolicited" and "prior business relationship". Perhaps Kodak is getting desperate because they're going down the tubes due to their technologically obsolete business model. As far as I'm concerned, the sooner they collapse the better, and good riddance. |